pedigree
Ok, here is my problem. I have a Tosa from Canada with a UKC pedigree. I tried to register the dog at the FCI, but the refused it, because the UKC is not a recognized organisation by the FCI. They said that I would have to ask a Certified pedigree and a registration certificate from the American kennel Club, but a Tosa isn't registered there. Besides, the dog is a Canadian. Searched the internet for some info, the UKC and the AKC don't seem to be getting along well, but that's not my problem really. So according to the rules of the FCI and the AKC my dog isn't purebred......... So, any ideas?
My dog has to run her AD the 6th of may, but that organisation really don't care what kind of pedigree the dog has.
My dog has to run her AD the 6th of may, but that organisation really don't care what kind of pedigree the dog has.
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Anyway, yeah, America and Canada are not members of the FCI.
I also noticed that AKC will take certain dogs with UKC pedigrees.
The bad news -and I'm sure you looked at the website:
"We have received many e-mails from around the world, but one that did catch my intention was a person that wrote from Europe, that bought a female Tosa - Inu in the United States for forty-five hundred euro’s with a UKC (United Kennel Club) registration. The breeder assured the buyer that the puppy would have an International certification by the FCI. The puppy’s parents were brought from Japan but were not certified by the Preservation Committee or the JKC in Japan. Therefore, the American breeder was trying to register the puppy’s parents in Mexico in an attempt to obtain an international register. This procedure is illegal and does not meet the requirements established by the FCI.
In order to counteract this type of fraud the Japanese Kennel Club and the FCI require breeders to implant a Micro-chip or ID in their Tosa in order to receive a Certified Export Pedigree or any International Certification. The information provided in the implant then must be confirmed by the JKC.
The processing of a sport pedigree for a Tosa in the JKC only lasts a year. If more than a year goes by from the date of importation of the Tosa and the new owner has not received their certification or registration, this means that the application has not been legally submitted to the JKC."
http://www.shaku1.com/registration.html
That said, I would look at the parents. If they are UKC then I think you are out of luck but if they are imports you can look at getting them registered.
This isnt' true. It would be catastrophe if there was rule like this.
Never heard of a sport Pedigree from the JKC, especially for a Tosa, Tosa's that sport you can count on the fingers of one hand. So, I should contact the JKC for the registration of a dog? The JKC doesn't care for a Tosa.
Strange, a friend of mine bought a dog in Europe, with a FCI pedigree, and could register the dog with the UKC without a single problem.
@MirkaM....no, we dont have another register like you mentioned. If my dog passes her AD, it will be written in the working dog files, but you won't see that title on her pedigree.
@Calia...thanks for thinking with me....wouldn't that be strange, there are some yokozuna lines in her pedigree, but most of the Tosa's in her pedigree the Japanese never heard of....
If that is not the case that is great but I feel bad for the people that are having to go through this each time.
If so, then an option would be to try to use the UKC papers on your pup to get AKC-FSS.
http://www.fci.be/uploaded_files/Letter of understanding FCI_AKC_16072008.pdf
"It is up to FCI to decide about the registration of dogs born in the USA belonging to breeds not recognized by the AKC"
http://www.fci.be/uploaded_files/CKC-FCI.pdf
@ayk my dog isn't a pup, she will be 3 years old in June. She was born in Canada, sold to a person in Belgium but he didn't register the dog.
In september they asked me if I could take the dog for whatever reason. Or else the dog had to return to Canada, that's the agreement the breeder made with the pup buyers. There were already plans for a single litter breeding with my male, so I took her in. Never thought that the UKC wasn't recognized by the FCI or other organisations. Personally I don't care about a pedigree, some pupbuyers do. My only thing was to breed a litter in which 4 AD titled dogs were used, never happened in Tosa breeding before. Because AD titles aren't mentioned on a pedigree anymore, I personally don't care about a piece of paper with some names, it's the dog that really matters.