Progress for Hokkaido Club: 1st Litter Born in North America
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Each of the Nihon Ken are now represented in North America with in home birth statistics following the delivery of 6 healthy Hokkaido puppies last night to Genko (Washington) and Yezo (BC, Canada). The breakdown was 6 puppies total: 2 brindles (boy/girl), 2 white boys, and 2 very black, black and tan girls. It’s a nice litter and has effectively doubled the population of potentially breed-able Hokkaido in North America.

    The plan after this includes placing these puppies in cooperative homes, and health screenings on the litter for eyes and MyDogDNA, with some added tests for each parent, and translations for the database and breed club. I would also like to breed Genko one additional time...I'm undecided as to who, but I am glad there are so many males to chose from (they are just none of them closer than 3 hours away). I plan to put profits from the puppies towards these goals.

    Anyways, exciting times. Genko is a champ, delivering two smaller puppies first with ease after giving very minimal signs of impending labor in comparison to my Shibas. The first two puppies were both 7 oz, where my Shiba puppies are all around 9-10 at birth.

    The rest of Genko's puppies were 11ish ounces. She did need some help for the third puppy which was quite large, which required me holding onto the pup and pushing her skin over his head. Otherwise she was a pretty good whelper and wouldn't set her 1st puppy down initially, and is good about collecting them to her by carrying them where they are supposed to be, and lining them up.

    I used a larger ground level whelp box this time vs a smaller waist height Shiba delivery station as she was quite large at 37#. I have a heating pad underneath them in the middle so they can chose to be on it or not, and an infrared heat lamp pointed away from mom. She reminds me all the time "Hey, I like it cold! I'm a northern breed." I also did 4 full loads of laundry during and right after delivery (it's a juicy process and Genko puked a couple times on the clean bed, which is normal).

    I wish I could say that I held up as well as she did...I spent the first night sleeping next to them on a cot waking up every 20-30 minutes when she had cramping to expel the last placenta after the oxytocin injection, and to make sure everyone was warm, dry, nursing and toileting ok. I'm thankful my whelper helpers were all present in shifts to take care of my other dogs and puppies while I stayed with Genko.

    This after only 2 hours of sleep the previous day following a night shift...the first 24 is always the most dramatic and precarious time, so going without the sleep and "on call" is all apart of good care as these babies are precious. Definitely not glamorous, and boy is my back sore, but I'm glad to be sleeping in a real bed on night #2.

    I do still set my alarm for every 1-2 hours on the second night to check, feed mom some meat soup and ice cream or ProBloom (probiotics in goat milk to help stave off the diarrhea from eating placentas). I'm also weighing the babies every morning and two are getting weighed twice a day. I'm extremely glad I invested in a Nest Camera, as this was literally how I knew she had actually begun having puppies, and I can easily check them now on my smart device over wifi from my own bed.

    I do want to do a write up on the differences with raising each breed. I plan to socialize and raise these guys as I would my Shibas and I am happy to share the progress and hurdles as they occur. I think raising them this way will help make the transition to new homes easier.

    Blog: https://hokkaidousa.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/hokkaido-litter-born-9615-1st-us-litter/

    Like and share about the Hokkaido Project on FB: https://www.facebook.com/HokkaidoANA/timeline

    My favorite puppy so far is the brindle girl with the star on her chest :)

    I also need help coming up with names for them all!

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    Post edited by lindsayt at 2015-09-08 06:39:01
  • BootzBootz
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    Congrats!!! Glad to hear everything went well.
  • KriszKrisz
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    Congrats!!! Name to brindle boy: Tora :x
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Krisz, good name, he is now Tora. I was calling him Yezo Jr lol. Tora was the first puppy born :)
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  • SayaSaya
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    Congratulations! :D Glad they are doing well.
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Ooh, yay! Genko had her puppies! That's so exciting. And wow....six of them? What an overachiever, lol. Good job, Genko!

    Just let me know if you want people to come play with puppies. I know several people who would love to play with puppies (including me). ;)
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Well, I guess I could manage to host a fabulous puppy party...
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I need to be there.
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  • mdokicmdokic
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    I wish I could come to the puppy party, I miss puppy breath! :( Congrats to you and genko, this is an awesome milestone, hoping for healthy development in all the puppies.. way to go you guys!
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Puppy party! I like that idea.

    I know you mentioned that Tora was born first, and that made me wonder...what was the birth order of the pups?
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  • Oh, puppies!

    Name for the little brindle girl with the "star": Hoshi (star)

    Shared this discussion with one of the key Shiba breeders here in NorCal.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Ooo, good name!
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Birth order:

    Small brindle boy
    Small black/tan/brindle girl
    Big black/tan/brindle girl
    Red tinge white boy
    Brindle girl
    Very white male
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  • Awesome! I look forward to your further write-ups. Very interesting.

    More pictures please! ;)
  • @lindsayt what does co-owning a pup involve?
  • For the very white male, I suggest the name Otou (short for Otousan) :)
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Good name @zandrame ! 3 more to go:

    Red tinged white male
    Small black/tan/brindle girl
    Larger black/tan/brindle girl
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    The size difference in the two smallest puppies next to one of the medium sized girls.

    https://hokkaidousa.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/hokkaido-puppies-2-days-old/

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    Post edited by lindsayt at 2015-09-08 19:19:52
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    @jtaylor

    In summation, I want a male and female aside from what I keep, placed into separate cooperative homes fairly close to me (neighboring states or over the boarder) who agree to not spay/neuter until the puppies mature into adults for evaluation for breeding fitness/health/type. I would like the people involved to agree to some health testing when old enough, and to make the dogs available to me to use for breeding if needed on a temporary basis (ie, to bring the dog to me for a weekend to breed, or bring the female to me to whelp and place a litter). It wouldn't be a co-ownership, but an agreement for the owner to make with me.
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  • More name options!

    I didn't want to go too far off the deep end with popular culture (unless you have a theme), so I thought place names from Hokkaido were good ~

    Asahi (Asahikawa)
    Sapporo
    Sora (Sorachi)

    also Taiga (sounds like tiger, but also the name for the biome of northern Hokkaido)
  • SayaSaya
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    I like ginko for the red tinged white male.
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    I almost named Meitou Yukar (the Ainu sagas). That might work for a puppy name?
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    "Yukar" huh? That's different!
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  • GrayJJGrayJJ
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    Congrats! The puppies look great. It must be adorable to watch them grow day to day.
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    haha, yeah, Meitou's name was pretty much decided on a mental coin toss. Yukar is on my short list if I ever own another Hokkaido. So is Cikap (which according to the internet means bird or is in reference to the owl god: http://www.translationdirectory.com/dictionaries/dictionary036.php#C).
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    So I think I will be going with Ainu names for this litter..so one of the white boys is gonna be Yukar and the other Cikap (for now anyways lol)
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  • SayaSaya
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    Good names. :)
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    I got some better puppy photos https://hokkaidousa.wordpress.com/2015/09/10/puppy-pictures/

    Puppy 1, brindle boy:

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    Puppy 2, small black/tan/brindle girl:

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    Puppy 3, larger black/tan/brindle girl:

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    Puppy 4, red tinged white male:

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    Puppy 5, brindle girl:

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    Puppy 6, large very white male:

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  • aykayk
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    Do I spy brindle on Puppy 3's cheeks? :-)
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    @ayk

    There are more white/brown hairs coming in little lines, still very dark though. These are not at all like any Shiba black and tan I have ever seen, even though they are also very dark as puppies, but you can always see something in the right places...not with these babies though. I have Genko's 4 week old photos, and they were all clearly black and tan, so it will be interesting to see this develop.
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  • @ayk, are you thinking the dark girls are likely kurotora like in Kai Ken?
  • CrispyCrispy
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    They're probably black and tan with brindle on their points, making them look super dark right now... if Yezo can throw black and tan puppies.
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  • aykayk
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    @zandrame - I was looking at the baby pictures of Achwi and you can pick out individual red/yellow hairs throughout his body at 2 days of age in the photos.

    So, I'm thinking brindled black/tan since I can't spy any lighter hairs on the body.


    @Crispy - Yezo could also be carrying recessive black. Ay/a instead of Ay/at.

    When combined with black/tan, it'll look like black/tan with smaller tan points. at/a
    Post edited by ayk at 2015-09-10 19:19:04
  • CrispyCrispy
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    That's true! Hokkaido appear to have recessive black. I forgot about that.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    We will know for sure I guess when I test the litter and Yezo.
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Puppy nuggets! Waaah, so cute~! I know which puppies are my favorites, lol
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  • TrzcinaTrzcina
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    So cool! Very shallow of me, but I love the color variation in this litter. It'll be very cool to see how they develop! Congrats :)
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Yes I love how varied everyone is :)
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Alright, so I think I got some official names for the babies, and decided to go with some Ainu names. Post is here: https://hokkaidousa.wordpress.com/2015/09/21/special-visitors-and-puppy-names/

    "We have had some very special visitors the last few weeks.

    Thank you Jennifer for bringing Kiba and Taro (Kai and Shiba) over to play with the dogs and for taking Shiba puppy photos.

    Also thanks to CJ for stopping by with her Kishu Krew and Kamera…She got some wonderful shots of momma Genko and babies:

    Puppy 1 and Puppy 2 are now “Tora” and “Kurasi”

    Tora is the smaller brindle boy, and although I wanted to use Ainu names for the pups in honor of their heritage, his owner in Europe wants to name him in the Japanese style. It means “Tiger”, and it’s a great name for this guy who is a little survivor.

    Kurasi is Ainu for dark. She is the darkest puppy.

    Puppy 6, the very white male on the left, is now “Retar”, the Ainu word for white.

    His brother puppy 4, the white pup with lots of red, is named “Yukar”, who Meitou the white Hokkaido picked out :) Yukar are Ainu heroic/epic stories. Yukar is sure to have some of those about him.

    Puppy 3, the large black/tan/brindle girl, is now “Kunne”, which is Ainu for black.

    And lastly, her brindle sister, puppy 5, is the largest girl of the litter, and we decided to name her “Umma”, which means horse. I think it’s a very pretty name for this not so little girl. These two girls will be staying on a bit longer so I can evaluate which is the better fit to take over for Genko.

    I checked several of the available online dictionaries for Ainu translations…I hope they were accurate! If you the readers see an error there, please let me know. I would hope I am not unknowingly calling any of them “Bilge water” or “Outhouse” or something unflattering lol.

    One more thing, thank you SO MUCH for those who have helped me fulfill some of the Hokkaido Puppy Amazon Wishlist https://amzn.com/w/35CA4TV83KTJO

    We got a couple orders already, and another big box of puppy pads!"
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  • SayaSaya
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    Love the names. :) Kunne is nice one!
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Yukar is now my favorite. :P
    Are Tora and Kurasi the only ones with definite homes at the moment?
    I was also wondering if Genko, Yezo, and the puppies will be added to the Hokkaido Pedigree Database?
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    Post edited by WhoBitMe at 2015-09-21 12:27:48
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Lemme see if I can keep it straight:

    I want to keep Umma or Kunne, not sure which yet. Tora should be a world traveler soon...and I have 3 homes I'm still interviewing for the others. I would still like to find a good cooperative home for the girl I don't keep for myself and possibly one of the white males. I still haven't made up my mind on final placements. Ideally there would end up being 3 total from this litter, 2 girls and a boy, who are kept intact and go to cooperative homes (and one of those would be with me).
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Ah, I see. :) Thanks for clarifying.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    For those interested in following Facebook updates for the Hokkaido breed in North America, the club Facebook page is

    https://facebook.com/hokkaidoHANA
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Recent updates:

    https://hokkaidousa.wordpress.com/2015/11/04/8-weeks-old-hokkaido-puppies/

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    My pick male puppy (I am keeping his brindle sister Umma instead to carry on for Genko).



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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    My favorite puppy! :-(( He was so charming. he chewed on my hands an everything. he's also the one that playbowed Meitou and tried to get him to play. Kunne (also one of my favorites) was pretty interested, too, but Retar really tried! Retar!

    Do Kunne and Kurasi have homes lined up already?
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    He is my favorite puppy all around still. He is a real performer and has that special something that is hard to describe...I haven't placed him yet, but would like to keep him local so he can be available to me later on for breeding. And yes re Kunne and Kurasi :)
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    I'm glad they've got homes. :) Are they local also? I seem to recall someone saying something about one of them going to Finland or something... Are any of the owners going to be on the forum? Sorry, nosey. :D

    =(( I hope Retar gets a very awesome home.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Two boys are staying local to me, and two of the girls are staying in the U.S. with one to Europe. There is one other owner who is on the forum besides my self, but I have encouraged the others to join. I really like Retar a lot, and will wait for the right home for him. Umma is special, she fits right in with the other dogs :)
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Updates on the Hokkaido litter and Genko!

    https://hokkaidousa.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/hokkaido-updates/

    https://hokkaidousa.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/hokkaido-updates/





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  • SixSix
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    Such gorgeous babies how, old are they here?

    I think I'm falling in love with the brindle colours. But I do love the whites too, maybe I'm biased because my white inuit boy is my soul mate :x
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    Post edited by Six at 2015-12-17 17:21:03
  • omgtainomgtain
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    Umma has the same collar as Tavi!
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    Tain, Nare the GSD/Husky, and Tavi the Kaigirl!
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    They are 15 weeks now, thanks

    Tain, sisters from another mother (and father).
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    I was just wondering how the puppies were doing. Thanks for the update! They're all growing up so cute! So Retar has a home in Portland? He'll be so close to me!
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  • zandramezandrame
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    Great updates!

    That video with Grym is super cute! :)
  • What handsome dogs!

    When I was a child, my grandfather in Hakodate had a Hokkaido inu that was technically black and tan, but actually very black. No visit to my grandparents house could begin without that dog knocking me down and licking me all over!

    I look forward to more pictures of this group.

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