Nami the sesame Kishu Ken
  • CrispyCrispy
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    As all of my facebook friends have seen (repeatedly) over the last day, I finally have a third dog in the "pack". :D

    Meet Nami! She's a 2 (going on 3?) year old Kishu Ken who was living with @shishiinu until she was recently placed with me. I couldn't be happier with her and I am SO glad to have this opportunity and thankful for all the help along the way (and Nami's)! Since there aren't a whole lot of active Kishu owners, I thought I'd make her thread sooner, rather than later. I was going to wait until this time next week, but... there's no harm in posting sooner! Now you get to be part of the adventure.

    So far, Nami has been super sweet with people. She's leery, but curious, and recovers easily. She's a huge step forward from the last dog I got off an airplane. (We're looking at you, TK.) :p

    She is, however, very reactive when she feels threatened or challenged, and pretty hard-headed. She's super smart, but wants to do things her way. I haven't convinced her I'm someone to take direction from just yet. We got somewhere with "sit" today - which I'm sure she knows, but she didn't want to do it for me. She reminds me of my Malamute in that aspect: she wanted to do anything and everything else in order to get the treat I had... except for what I was directing her to do.

    On the plus side, she loves food more than anything else we've encountered so far! Yay!

    She had a VERY busy first day with me. She wouldn't stay quiet in the crate and was able to jump the gate with some help from the counter next to it, so I took her with me on my errands after she got in. They weren't long, but I had to stop by my grandmother's house (where we took her and my brother's more sensitive dog for a walk - with good results), stop by my mom's work (where she got treats), stop by my brother's girlfriend's work (where she also got treats), and get some flowers for my grandmother (where she slept in the car).

    She seems to like TK (Shikoku) and my brother's dog, Russell (mixed breed, medium-large)... but she's not a huge fan of Joseph (Pyr mix, brother's dog) or London (Malamute). Size probably has something to do with it, but London and Joseph can both be kind of prickly, so it could just be their personalities (whereas Russell and TK are much less combative).
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    Post edited by Crispy at 2016-06-20 21:09:47
  • NavyDogNavyDog
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    Yay Nami! Wow she is small at only 30 lbs
  • WrylyBrindleWrylyBrindle
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    Nam-Nam! Congratumalations! Im glad she's here in NE, so maybe I can meet her sometime! :)
  • Hinata23Hinata23
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    So glad she's doing well! Her and TK look like they're going to be best buds :)
  • cdenneycdenney
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    you say small and i think normal (Sachi size and nikki is actually bigger). I like the third picture from the last her tail is finishing a wag.
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  • DragonflyDragonfly
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    Congrats! Love the pictures :)
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Thank you, guys!

    I guess Nami is pretty "normal sized" as far as the other breeds go, but I think she's a small Kishu. She's also my smallest dog by far, so she seems pocket-sized! :p

    We had another busy day juggling dogs. I took the boys out for a walk earlier. I wanted to take Nami and TK, but she was being pretty argumentative earlier and I wanted it to be a good experience for everyone.

    I took her to my grandmother's house to do some things for mother's day. She met my family and my brother's friends and was super sweet with everyone. She met my oldest cat (Joey) who was decidedly very boring to her--she tried to chase her and snarl at her and get Joey to run, but when Joey did nothing, Nami settled down and forgot about her.

    She likes my brother's dog, Russell, but about an hour into our visit, a door slammed and scared her a bit. She didn't settle down after that and ended up taking it out on poor Russell. They didn't get at each other, but she went for him in a hurry!

    So now we're home. I think Nami is going to nap and I'll just take her out on a walk later tonight when its cooler.

    Here's the pretty girl.
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    She's so pretty!
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
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  • LosechLosech
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    Congrats! She's so gorgeous.
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  • tmdtmd
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    Congratulations! She looks great!
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Thanks, all! :D

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    Day number three went by pretty well. Nami continues to do amazingly with people. She's a little leery at first, but never snappish, and doesn't startle easy. She just wants to know what people are about before they touch all over her, which is cool!

    She did, however, try to eat my oldest cat when we visited my grandmother's house. The cat was right behind the door when I opened it and Nami just went for her. Me, being dumb, stuck my leg in the way and ended up getting bit... and Nami was pretty stressed out after that, so we had to leave.

    She ran mother's day errands with me and my boyfriend - we alternated Nami-watch with each stop so she got out to explore. She always seems very curious and eager to understand her setting. She's outgoing and fairly easy-going as well.

    Found out that she seems to have a high toy drive right now, so I hope she keeps it! I'd like to do something with her that challenges her and gets the breed out there... looking at agility, flyball, and nosework right now.

    I could not get her to get in the Jeep with my Malamute this evening for a jog, even though he was in the boot and I was trying to put her up front with me. She got in the seat and immediately began snarling at him. He didn't react, but I was worried she was going to launch herself over the seat to get to him and ended up leaving her home.

    She has, on the bright side, stopped reacting to London in the house. She also doesn't react to my Siamese, but she doesn't much care for TK and likes to try and spook my other cat.

    For day three, I think she did well. I suspect things will get worse before they get better. She'll probably be separated from the household for a while longer.

    I did put the cats and the boys away to let her wander around our living room (the room that connects the whole apartment). She was really stiff and tense during her first round, but quickly found London's toy hoard and got busy with some bones. I let her keep one.

    I'm going out to meet a friend of a friend who is interested in the Japanese breeds tomorrow. Nami and TK will be coming with me so she can meet a Shikoku and a Kishu - I just have to crate Nami while she's in the Jeep. We'll be going for a hike after the initial meet... but I'm not sure I'll bring Nami. We'll see how she does. Everything is very experimental and flexible right now.

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    Post edited by Crispy at 2014-05-11 22:23:50
  • NavyDogNavyDog
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    So glad she went to someone who can put in this kind of love & support! Keep up the good work! We just started Yucca in agility & she loves it. If you get into it then maybe we will run into you at an east coast trial
  • sunyatasunyata
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    She is so pretty! And I am glad she is finally home. :)
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I'm really fortunate to have her! She's a great dog and I'm really lucky to have a great community. I'm very thankful for Gen and his family giving her a great start. She has an amazing personality and it's really everything I thought it would be! I signed up for this knowing that it might take forever - or that she may never be able to be around my cats.

    She has really taken the change with a lot of grace. More than TK did in his transition (who was much more sensitive), for sure. I mean, I'm sure she's still anxious and worried about where she is, but she doesn't "show" a whole lot of it. She's a very brave little lady.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I didn't update yesterday, but I did meet up with a friend to take Nami, TK, and her two Akita mixes on a "hike" through the woods. I forgot my camera card, so she used her card in my camera to snap some pictures. Hopefully I can post some of those up later today.

    Nami does VERY WELL out and about. She is not reactive to other dogs beyond the initial meet-and-greet (which really could have been TK's fault because he's reactive to everything). She is reactive only when she is in her crate or in a closed space in general (car, house, etc). Outside, where she's comfortable, she's a totally different animal! I hope we see a little more of that once she starts to get used to everything.

    Here she is, post-hike and post-swim, looking very tired.

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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Nami had a bath to clean her up and got to go to the vet today!

    Part of the reason she was placed with me was because we suspected she was having fertility issues. Today, our repro specialist said that he suspected she was simply going through silent heats and that it was possible she only came into season once a year (and to check if such a trait was in her family history - but there's no chance of getting that info).

    We drew some blood for a thyroid test. He said that if she was in the low normal or just plain low range that we could put her on thyroid medication to try and make her cycle more overt. If that doesn't come back conclusive, there are some other things we can do.

    I think the next time she goes in, I'm going to order an allergy test... just to see if it comes back with anything. Gen tried it on one of his pups in the past and it came back inconclusive, so we'll see!

    Today was, overall, a good day. She wasn't into her bath... at all. Like, I hope I never have to do that again kind of "not into it". Her nails and ears were perfect. :p

    She hasn't reacted to my cats at all today, which is... good. We'll see if that lasts. She also didn't react at all to TK, but was grumbly with London when he got excited over food time. He IS kind of giant and obnoxious, so I don't blame her.

    Today was an easy kind of day, I feel.

    I got a couple pictures. Nothing too awesome... but, you know, for posterity: here she is.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Nami went to lunch with me and London today, then, after a nap, she went out with TK and I.

    She's doing well. Getting better with the dogs inside the house. She's more focused on the cats now, but I had her on the lead in the house on the couch with me tonight and she did pretty well - ignored them after a couple minutes. I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't think I'll ever be able to trust her in the house alone with them, though. (That's okay! That's what baby gates and crates are for!)

    Here's a picture update.

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Great pictures! Nami has such a sweet face.

    I totally understand not always trusting an NK with a cat. ;) Meitou tackles my cat all the time (for humping, eep). He's better than he was, but he is still a terror. He'll be doing well and ignoring the cat and then...fly tackle!
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • zandramezandrame
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    @Crispy! Come back here and explain that new development!

    And can I say, I thought she looked a bit distended in the pics!
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Oh yes. We're expecting.

    Surprise! :D
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I wasn't planning on making the announcement until they were here, but Nami was bred to Taro and the pregnancy was confirmed on Monday. We're expecting 5 puppies right now.
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  • zandramezandrame
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    That's great! And I apologize if my enthusiasm led to an early annoncement. I was trying to continue the discussion in the right place. Sorry!

    Was it an intentional breeding? She totally jumped from one end of the fertility spectrum to the other!

    Do they know how far along she is?
  • CrispyCrispy
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    @zandrame - That's ok! It's on FaceBook. I just didn't want to get everyone excited before I knew how many puppies we really had and what their deets were. :)

    It was not an intentional breeding, but she was only around Taro, so the puppies will be purebred and NIPPO registered. She's about 6-7 weeks along.
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Aw, congratulations on the future Nami-blobs! Even if it is a bit early. :) That's exciting news.
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
    Post edited by WhoBitMe at 2014-05-22 00:42:32
  • SayaSaya
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    Nami looks great love the TK play pic. hehe

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  • sunyatasunyata
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    :-D
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  • RikkaRikka
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    Wow, she's beautiful.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Some updated shots of Nami. I am very fortunate and grateful to have her with me. :)

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Great pics! I really like the last two. Is that a normal spot for their toys (in the second to last picture). I hadn't thought of something like that to put toys on outside so they aren't just sitting out in the way of everything.
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    That's where the toys go! It's really easy so that we can care for the lawn without things getting in the way. :)
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  • sunyatasunyata
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    Ahh! It looks like congratulations are in order!!!!! :-D That was quite fast!
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    SO quick. Thankfully. Such big kids, too!
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  • zandramezandrame
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    That was fast! I hope things are going well with the new additions! :)
    Will you post updates on their development here, or a new thread? I would definitely like to follow along.

    I'm actually curious about the kishu color genetics now. (I'm not sure if there is a better thread for this.) I was not expecting the pups to be white, so that's interesting.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    The genetics behind white are, in theory, pretty simple. What we call "white" in the Japanese breeds is genetically labelled "recessive red", as I understand it. Recessive red restricts the growth of black hairs, so the coat is left white or cream.

    Recessive red is defined as "e" in genetics.
    Wild-type (normal pigment) is defined as "E", in simplest terms.

    Nami is Ee (mother was "colored" and father was "white", so since Nami is not white, it is safe to say she is Ee)
    Taro is ee (white)

    There was a 50/50 chance per puppy to be white or colored. Any colored puppies Nami produced would have been Ee, so they would have carried white anyway.

    The coin just flipped in favor of white this time around. :)

    NOW... what determines the pattern of a yushoku dog is totally different. Furthermore, every "white" dog does have a genetic yushoku pattern - so puppies inherit their own pattern from the sire/dam, but since they're white, we can't tell what that pattern is. SO, theoretically, if Taro was carrying say... brindle... black and tan... sesame... we would never know. Because of that, we have no idea what these puppies are, genetically, without testing them. We only know what Nami's phenotype is and what pattern they could have inherited.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I'm not a geneticist, though... and no expert.

    Here are puppies. :)

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  • ValkyriiValkyrii
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    There is something about puppies that is simply soothing to the soul.
  • zandramezandrame
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    Great response, thanks! Since I didn't know what color Nami's parents are, I didn't think about her being a carrier. Then the Punnett square is simple, Ee x ee = 2 Ee and 2 ee. 50/50.

    Puppies! They are so pink! And Nami looks so sleepy :)
  • BootzBootz
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    Was this the first litter you ever handled? I can't imagine how scary/exciting it must have been for you.

    The babies are adorable :) Mommy looks very tired.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    @Valkyrii - now that they're sleeping. :p

    @zandrame - yep! There could be other things that affect the white coloration or the frequency of colored dogs, but I think it's simply the frequency of white in the genepool.

    @Bootz - It's my first litter. It was a big surprise! I was a little scared with the first pup because Nami did not do anything for it. I think she was panicking - and i'm sure I wasn't making it better by staring at her. I watched this alive and wriggling puppy start to go limp before I stepped in and ripped the sack and took over for her. I had to do all of them except the very last one, but she was good to them after I got them cleaned up. :)
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  • NavyDogNavyDog
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    I'm not a geneticist, though... and no expert


    Coulda fooled me! Great explanation!
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    I didn't realize the puppies were due so soon! Congratulations!
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    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Well, I haven't updated Nami's thread in a while. Here are two I snapped today!

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    She is so pretty. Does she look thin because she is out of coat?
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    She's still a bit thin from the puppy weight loss. Her coat is ridiculously thin too, right now, thanks to the puppies. She was a lot worse. She's starting to look like herself again, though!
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    That's good. :) Even with a thing coat and a little weight loss she's still a pretty girl. Love her face.
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Naked Nami is recovering from puppies!

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  • tmdtmd
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    She looks a little like an Egyptian queen. There's something regal about her posture and in her eyes.
    - Hanzo (Kai Ken), Pharaoh (JA/AA tweenie), Meg (Border Collie/Lab mix)
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    I agree with @tmd . There is something very Egyptian about Nami. :) She's lovely as always.
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    I've posted these all over FB but I figured I'd share here.

    Nami and I attended our first lure coursing event today. It was an open field when I got there and I didn't notice until after I registered her to run so it was pretty stressful to put so much trust in her when I'd hardly worked in recall with her, but that ended up being the least of our problems today, lol.

    Nami was actually rather bored of the lure. Her first run, she went faster in a sprint than I think the operator gave her credit for - she cut the lure off and tripped over it when she tried to catch it and became distracted after that. I got her to finish and then it took me a bit to get her back - she kept jogging around and trying to sniff around for something better to chase after, I think.

    Her second run went better and she was into it for the first two turns, but started becoming disinterested in the third turn. By the fourth turn, she was still going, but was much less enthusiastic about the whole thing. She came right back to me on her second run with a bit of coaxing and waited to get leashed up.

    She won one ribbon today, so she'll need two more before she has that "CAT" after her name. I think I'll do it again with her to see if it's the right thing for her - she was definitely more interested on her second run, so maybe she'll get into it. I dunno.

    I'm really proud of her, regardless of anything, and it was a fun thing to experience together.

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Good job, Nami! :)
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • zandramezandrame
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    That's pretty cool! It probably wasn't as exciting for her since she's used to hunting real animals. And the operator needs to do their job to keep the lure interesting.

    But yay! Would she be the first Kishu to get a title?
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Thanks, guys!

    I'm not sure, @zandrame - Carleen encourages her puppy buyers to participate in events, but I don't know of lure coursing is one of them. If not, I suspect she will be!
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Ms. Nami...

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    What a pretty girl. :3
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Nami went off-leash for the first time the other day. She did pretty well. She was very responsive if I was within 20 feet. If I was outside of that range, she'd stop and turn and see where I was at, but she would not come to me. I think she'll be all set for hiking in the spring (I do very little hiking in the winter, or she might be ready for woodsy off-lead hikes sooner.)

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Good job, Nami! Love her happy face!
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    SO HAPPY. The tongue kills me.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I haven't posted these here yet. It seems like I've posted them everywhere under the sun, but I guess I have a lot of mediums to keep up with lately. Here's our latest adventure...

    Mame-Nami attended the pet expo with me.... we did the dog show thing again. The three ribbons on the table are just from her taking her breed (no other contenders). The rosette is from us inexplicably taking 4th place in the group placement (FCI groups - spitz and primitive). There were about 8 dogs in the group. The judge was pretty nice and easy-going and liked the way she moved, which was the assessment at the previous show we went to. Nami's got the moves! You know, when she's actually paying attention to where she's going.

    We got to do a "Meet the Breed" at the expo. Nami met a lot of new friends and especially loved the guys at the rock-climbing booth and all of the kids who were at the event. She made a few dog-friends (a Field Spaniel and a Shar Pei), but ignored most of them. She only had a problem with one dog there - a Shiloh Shepherd puppy who was ignoring her the whole time. I dunno. She just decided she hated him.

    The Shiloh Shepherd's owner was a very nice Japanese woman who had heard of Kishu Ken (and seemed to believe they were dangerous), but never met one. She was looking at Nami like she KNEW she was a Japanese dog, but couldn't figure out which one or if she was mixed. She knew my friend's Shiba right away, of course. After she heard that Nami was a Kishu Ken, she got very wide-eyed and somewhat fearful until she saw how Nami acted around people. It was a bit unfortunate that Nami disliked her dog - Nami reacting to her dog made her fearful again until we could smooth things over. I do wonder if part of Nami's issue with the Shiloh was that the owner was fearful and both dogs were feeding off of her/each other? Nami wasn't explosive-reactive, just a bit snarky, and the dogs were always at least 3 feet apart, so nothing happened.

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    All in all, it was a fun experience to hang out with friends and talk about the breeds.


    And here she is protesting being left outside while I get coffee.
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    ...and ten minutes later, when she decided to jump through the fence to try and get a pigeon after I stopped to eat my breakfast.
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  • mdokicmdokic
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    Great story, and yay Nami! It's ok if she randomly decides to not like a particular dog...it may not be as random as you think (or maybe it is...you know how some people just give you a bad vibe for no reason?)

    I'm glad she did so well with everyone, and she looks so pleased with herself :) Except for when she was waiting for you to get coffee...Nami says "oh woooe is me!" xP
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Haha, I'm actually surprised that she was so good with as many dogs as she was, @mdokic. She's not really a dogs-dog but she's a great people-dog. :)
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  • mdokicmdokic
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    Awe, i wish i could meet her! In every picture i just want to squeeze her face. (not sure how she would feel about that haha)
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Awesome job, Nami!
    Love her protesting being left outside. I'm not brave enough to leave Meitou alone if I need to go into a store, but when I leave him with family or friends while I step instide....ahmagash, he puts up a fuss. He doesn't really like it when my family goes into stores without him either, but he doesn't put up as much of a fuss. He's a big baby at heart.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Nami update!

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    I want to take a nice picture of me with the dogs, but this is all you get for now.
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    I don't know, I think that picture is pretty fantastic as it is. :)
    And Nami is looking as lovely as always. I'm really liking that first picture of her.
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
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  • zandramezandrame
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    Are those wrinkles on her forehead or an illusion of her coloration? I want to touch....
  • shishiinushishiinu
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    I miss her :(
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  • Kira_InuKira_Inu
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    Nami looks beautiful and has filled out nicely! :)
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Thanks, guys. I'm very lucky to have her. :)

    @shishiinu - Once I get to Oregon, a road trip to southern California will get on the schedule. :(
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  • mdokicmdokic
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    She's such a cutie :) !!
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  • shishiinushishiinu
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    Awesome, maybe a trip to a pig rich area to get her back to her roots?
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  • zandramezandrame
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    @shishiinu, I would be interested in tagging along on such a trip!
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Tiny Nami - she's shedding all her coat recently. She and my Malamute.

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    Fionna giving mom some sass.
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    Not a fancy camera picture, but this is pretty much how Nami is.
    I got up for a second to go get food after starting a movie and she jumped in my grave with her favorite toy. We watched the movie together, naturally.
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    I'm so happy to have her. She is such a great companion and outdoorsdog. She loves doing anything and everything.
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  • emi802emi802
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    Fionna's face in the sassy photo..... too funny hahaha. Love the last photo :) She looks happy.
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Nami sheds her coat in January? So does Meitou! It seems really weird to me.
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  • sunyatasunyata
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    Nami sheds her coat in January? So does Meitou! It seems really weird to me.


    Both of my girls are blowing coat right now... Silly Nihon Ken. It is winter! :-/
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Naked Nami disliked the blizzard, but she's getting used to the snow.

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Poor cold Nami. I love that head-shot of her, her expression is great. Almost like she is saying something akin to "Yes it is cold. Heck no can you make me go inside." And that picture of her with London is cute, too.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I haven't updated Nami in a LONG TIME. We recently moved (beginning of March) to Portland, Oregon, and she's been having fun with me exploring every muddy, forested, mountain-y area we have had the opportunity to, so far. She's also a pro when it comes to visiting city center.

    Here she is!

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Nami's little muddy feet like she's got little mud boots on... :x
    Where did you and Nami go visit downtown?
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    @WhoBitMe - Nami and I go ALL over. She's a really good people-dog, so I can trust her outside if I have to tie her for a little bit. I always tie her where I can see her because I'm super paranoid of people stealing my dogs (people have made attempts with my Malamute in the past)... but we've mostly been exploring PSU campus, but we made it to Chinatown, the riverwalk, and all over on Sunday!
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Oh! Sometimes Meitou's class meets around the PSU campus. We aren't going there this session, though. I haven't taken Meitou to Chinatown, but we've probably been near the area. Unless it isn't near Union Station like I was thinking. But we often meet in the Pearl for class. And we've got to Waterfront Park a few times in the past, though not recently. It can be a bit much for some dogs in class. And parking is evil, lol.

    That's cool you can trust Nami to be tied out (with supervision). I wouldn't dare with Meitou. His people skills are not so good. ;)
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    @WhoBitMe - TK would not do well with people if I left him out, either. Don't feel bad. :(

    Some newer ones of Nami:
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Aw, Nami. :) So cute. It looks like she's been having fun exploring.

    I realized what would be the worst thing about leaving Meitou tied up outside a store. He just couldn't handle it. He cries and makes monkey noises when I go inside places without him, even when he is other people. LOL He would be a disturber of the peace.
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

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    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Miss Nami.

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Awww, that face. :x
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
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    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Some recent ones of Nami. I took her out yesterday and we had a lot of fun.

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    I also have this, which is probably my favorite headshot of her... this isn't a great version, tho...

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  • She's such a beauty, miss hunting with her.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    We need to establish a Kishu transportation program. I'm sure Nami would love to hunt again. :(

    She was so good yesterday, off leash. She bounced off into the brush and all we could hear was a little Kishu with a bell, bounce-bounce-bouncing in the brush. She came right back when I called her and was all smiles. The only reason I kept the long line on her at all was because I had Finn and my roommate and Finn is a resource guarder. It's good I did have the long line, because I had to step in and stop her from removing Finn's face when he tried to go at her over a fish spine on the beach. She stopped when I asked her to stop and backed off - she's really a great dog, even when she doesn't *want* to do something, she still minds me really well.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I haven't posted pictures of Nami in a while, so here's some more.

    She's really a great dog to go on solo adventures with. I hate to say she's my favorite... but I really don't have to worry about her running off, I don't have to worry about her with people, and I rarely have to worry about her with other dogs (despite her being dog-aggressive, she isn't dog-reactive - and much more obedient than Fionna...

    She scaled a bluff and looked down at me like "what, you can't get up here??" and when it became clear I was not going that way, she bounced back down and after me.
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    We went for a total of 6 miles - 3 out, 3 back when it started to look like rain. It wasn't very strenuous, but it was very muddy when we left the beach and went into the forest, which made things a little challenging, but it was a good walk for her and nice to get out with just one dog.

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    Going out somewhere with Fionna now.

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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Just a few more of Nami.

    She had some GI issue recently we couldn't really identify except to say that her intestines appeared inflamed. During this time (about a week, a little less), she was inappetent and not drinking water, so we were in and out of work getting fluids. She seemed to perk up after a number of days, though, and hasn't had issues since. It was very strange. :\

    At my sister's place in Seattle
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    Sauvie Island, Oregon.
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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    She's as pretty as always. I'm glad to hear that she hasn't had any problems since that incident.
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
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  • emi802emi802
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    That cutie face. I'm glad she's doing better! :)
  • WrylyBrindleWrylyBrindle
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    that last photo on Sauvie island is my favorite!
  • shishiinushishiinu
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    Miss that Nami. She's doing so good. Thank you for taking such good care of her.
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    I do my best, @shishiinu - she's do for a nice solo camping trip. I'm going to take her out on Friday through Sunday, I think. Still haven't decided where, but if the weather is cool, I may go to the beach and avoid the people. :)
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Nami on one of our favorite hikes. It's close in Portland and there are rarely people there.

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  • CrispyCrispy
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    More Nammers!

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  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    She's still so pretty! :x
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
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