Pitbulls - Blue Nose vs Red Nose
This may be a stupid question...but what is the difference between Blue Nose and Red Nose pitbulls? I have been getting some inquiries about Love, and a good amount of people are asking.
I did a search on google and some people say its just a color difference, some people say they have different traits, some people say blue nose are for breeding/showing and red nose are only bred for fighting.
I was just curious - if anyone really knows what the deal is. (Jess?)
I did a search on google and some people say its just a color difference, some people say they have different traits, some people say blue nose are for breeding/showing and red nose are only bred for fighting.
I was just curious - if anyone really knows what the deal is. (Jess?)
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I've read before of Red Nose being selected for their "gameness", even if not for fighting.
Honestly that question makes me a bit weary about the adopter. I mean why are they looking for that trait? Are they trying to find a red nose, or trying to avoid?
If, on one hand, the question tells you that the adopter knows a few things about pits, on the other hand you have to question his motives.
Also, I forgot to mention this to you when we were talking about applications, but mention to any applicant that a background check may be run. This will filter out a huge number of douchebags.
Interesting about the Pitt's though. I didn't know this. I thought the color was the color of the nose :P
For years, certain lineages of dogs have been associated with certain temperaments or other characteristics, because they were selected for that.
It reminds of what was said here about working Shikoku (not sure) in Japan having a sickle tail while conformation lines would have the curly tail the standard requires.
People do not have to go through that selection process (sometimes I think unfortunately).
I'm not saying it will be like that all the time, but the fact is that the genes that "code" some information are often associated with other genes, so it's not impossible for a colour to be associated with a specific temperament.
Therefore unless you know the origin of your dog, and their lineage you cannot judge them on appearances. There are too many factors even when you do know a dogs lineage. But for a rescue dog, especially a pit bull, you can in no way gauge their personality by their appearance.
I kinda see what both of you are saying (Rui and Jessica)...
On the one hand, "type" (aka Phenotype: temperament and looks) certainly does follow bloodlines and so certain physical chararistics and temperament can be found more often in certain lines.
On the other hand, we need to not over generalize... saying something like "All red nosed pit bulls are dog aggressive" is a gross over generalization... and I don't think anyone (Rui included) is saying that here.
I do see why it's important for us dog lovers to help get the message out that the color of a pitbull's nose doesn't reflect their personality. Enough of those poor dogs are killed everyday just for being pitbull... we don't need more crazies to target a specific nose color as a reason to kill more of them (faster).
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Going back to my train of thought: I don't claim that every single Red Nose will have more "gameness" than any other Pit or any other dog for that matter.
Brad ended up making my point, that some traits do go hand in hand in all dogs, not just Pits. It's a general dog thing.
It's not a matter of saying "any Pit with a red nose will be a fighting machine". What I am saying is it's quite possible for a certain temperament trait (being it aggressiveness or docility) to be associated with a certain physical characteristic (colour of nose, width of chest, whatever).
And this can be achieved through selection. Now not all selection has to be proof of responsible breeding. A "good" example of irresponsible selection are "breeders" that will select teacups. They are not responsible, by all means, but still they are enforcing a selection over their stock.
As an example of physical traits following temperament, I can think of GSD and their show bloodlines vs the working ones. The work lines will often have a sharper demeanor, associated with a much straighter back, some of them with almost no slope.
For this reason I can understand why some would say "blue nose" and "Red nose" APBTs can have differences. This can be caused by, for example, more Dogue de Bordeaux in a specific line, or more bulldog in a specific line, etc. APBTs are in my opinion a federation of alike dogs, but not a single homogenized breed. It is confusing that they should be registered as a pure bred dog to me, and I think in part this has a lot to do with their history presence.