Are you interested in breeding Hokkaido Ken in the USA? Read this...
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Katana and Genko have found a home! Thanks all who showed interest and supported the effort.


    If you're interested in breeding Hokkaido Ken in the USA, then I have an situation that could really benefit your effort in the breed...

    I imported a very nice female Hokkaido, named Genko, several months ago. She is a nice little dog, and is a fairly tame example of the breed. I also have Katana, a male that was imported by one of our NKF members, but later rehomed to me due to her having to downsize her dog count. Katana and Genko are both intact, and actually make a very nice breeding pair.

    Also, several members of the forum made a collective effort to import a male brindle Hokkaido, named Yezo, who was meant to be used in our breeding efforts with Genko. Yezo lived with me for a few months, but then went to live with another member of the forum in Canada due to him not getting along with all my male dogs. He is still intact and can be used to breed with Genko (this was the original intention).

    My wife, Jen ( @creativejen ), and I have decided not to move forward with our Hokkaido Ken breeding efforts. We came to this decision for many different reasons, so feel free to ask me if you'd like more detail on that. The primary reason we're not interested in breeding Hokkaido Ken is due to temperament - I worry about finding proper homes for the breed in the US, and given the number of dogs we already have, and my concern over the potential for puppies produced failing their homes, we do not have the space to have "extra" Hokkaido Ken here.

    The other side is that they are both hunting dogs, and they need to be hunted or worked regularly at the very least. I have too many hunting dogs to be able to hunt all of them. So I need to make the hard decision to place some so I can focus on the others. Genko is from the most famous (and last) bear hunting kennel in Japan. Her bloodlines are very special from that respect, but, unfortunately, they recently made it illegal to run dogs on bear here in Colorado.

    So, my offer is simple, if you are truly dedicated to working with this breed, through the good and the bad, and you want to get in on the ground floor of a very rare breed (arguably the rarest dogs breed in the USA - with less than 10 known to us in America), and you're dedicated to building the Hokkaido Ken community here in the USA, you can take Katana and Genko as a breeding pair to kick start your breeding effort.

    All I ask for in return are these things...

    1) You will sign a contract saying you will not rehome or sell either Genko or Katana under any circumstances. If they need to be rehomed due to unforeseen life events, they will come back to live with me.

    2) You will become a member of, and take over as the head of, the Hokkaido Ken Association of North America, working with the founder, Lindsay ( @lindsayt ), to move the club forward.

    3) You will reimburse me with a puppy (or the value of a puppy) from one of Genko's litters.

    4) You will maintain an active and transparent presence on this forum with the focus on educating potential Hokkaido Ken owner and enthusiasts.

    *I have Genko's and Katana's registration and paperwork from Japan.

    So that we're 100% clear, I want to take a moment and share some insight I've learned about the breed, based on the 3 I've raised and the few I've met in Japan...

    A few realities about the breed:
    1) They're small. Like just a bit larger than a Shiba. These 40# Hokkaido I keep hearing about, I dunno where they are. Ourse are smaller than our Kai Ken.

    2) Hokkaido Ken are noisy loud dogs. They bark, they howl, they scream, they chirp, they grunt... They have a lot to say. You need to be prepared for a lot of noise. Not a breed for noise sensitive types.

    3) I wouldn't consider the Hokkaido Ken to be "kid friendly". Even Genko, who was raised with my 4 year old daughter (who's been around more dogs than most adults), isn't very good with kids - even Chase (my daughter). I wouldn't recommend the breed go to a home with young kids.

    4) They're a sticky breed. They stick close, even in the woods, which is a nice trait that I really like about the breed.

    5) They're not a breed that likes to be handled a lot. They will take some love from you here and there, but they are generally antisocial in that respects.

    6) They're high energy. Probably the highest energy of all the NK breeds.

    7) They're not very good with other dogs. I wouldn't say they're a quarrelsome breed, like the Shikoku Ken, but they're pretty antisocial around other dogs and lack a lot of the "calming signals" most dogs come with.


    Here's a picture of Genko...
    Genko

    Here's Katana (I'll get a better pic of him this weekend)...
    Katana
    Post edited by BradA1878 at 2014-11-06 18:42:48
  • Wow, this is a great opportunity for someone! Brad, I think you're handling this really well, with good stipulations in place about expectations and this is an amazing offer.

    And I'm looking forward to being able to follow the breeding program of whoever decides to step forward and begin the Hokkaido program in the US!
    Lisa, Toby (Shiba), Oskar and Zora (American Akita), and Leo (Kai Ken)
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Thank you, Lisa ( @shibamistress )! :)
  • KoyukiKoyuki
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    Wow what an amazing opportunity! I wish you all the best with this Brad, and to Genko and Katana
  • cdenneycdenney
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    @sunyata ....?
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  • shishiinushishiinu
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    This is probably a once in a lifetime chance for someone. You're a good man Brad for doing this. I think about our old Hokkaido taro that I grew up with. Katana's temperament sounds just like his. I wish they weren't as difficult or I would snatch them up to hunt with.
    Gen, Ami, Kaylynn, Trinity, Yusuke......Riki, Hana, Sammi, Taro, and the newest addition Koyuki.
  • ceziegcezieg
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    This is a pretty awesome opportunity for anyone planning to hunt their dogs. You're just adding in Katana to get rid of the punk though, arent' ya ;) Just kidding!
    Two great dogs, and Genko of course is a stunner!
    Ren, Kai Ken (f, intact) 02-01-2012
    Kirin, Alaskan Noble Companion Dog (f, intact) 05-04-2015
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Like others have said, this would be a great opportunity for someone. But a lot of responsibility, too, I think.

    @cezieg You could do it... ;) I believe in you.
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  • GrayJJGrayJJ
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    Wow, amazing opportunity! Good luck!
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Thanks all!
  • MirkaMMirkaM
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    Wish I would live in US right now..
    Kai will lay down its life to protect its master.
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  • TRDmomTRDmom
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    Handsome dogs! :) That certainly is a great opportunity for a Hokkaido enthusiast!
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Another time, another place and I would jump on this. But unfortunately my circumstances will not allow me to have another dog (much less two) for another year or two (for those that do not know, I moved at the beginning of the year to pursue an amazing employment opportunity and now live in a condo in a major metropolitan area).

    But I do hope that someone can take Brad up on this amazing opportunity and help move this breed forward in the US. :)
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  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    bump
  • Ah, Katana is so handsome. I don't even know why I like that dog so much, he just sounds so completely lovable.
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Closing this because Katana and Genko will be going to live with @cezieg in March! Perfect fit! :)
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