Hokkaido, Kai and Shiba in rescue in MI, need homes ASAP
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    I was contacted via the Hokkaido Club email about several rescues in MI needing help placing 3 dogs surrendered by a forum member. There is a Kai, a Shiba, and a Hokkaido. I am waiting for more detailed info at this point, but MSIR has been asked to take the dogs, although I beleive they are currently with A Few Steps From Home Animal Rescue:
    https://www.facebook.com/200055706682797/photos/a.207260685962299.50634.200055706682797/748031208551908/?type=1&theater

    Anybody in those areas able to take in a Kai male and/or a Hokkaido import girl? All spayed and neutered, good with other dogs and cats and kids per reports.
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  • PoetikDragonPoetikDragon
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    I remember the thread the owner posted trying to place these three. Sad.
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  • NavyDogNavyDog
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    I could foster but that is about it. I'll see if any family or friends in Indy are interested.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    I remember the thread about these three as well, but the OP was very slow to respond to questions and has not posted about the situation since October. :(

    www.nihonken.org/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/8792/sadly-need-a-new-home-for-japanese-dogs
    Bella 2Mountains 2Nola 2
    Casey, with Bella and Nola, hanging out in the mountains of Virginia.
  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    I'm sharing the info., too, hoping someone will step up. It's very sad.
    Lisa, Toby (Shiba), Oskar and Zora (American Akita), and Leo (Kai Ken)
  • If I wasn't buying a house and moving in month, I would be able to help. :( this is very sad. Plus MI is still pretty far from here.
  • Myabee09Myabee09
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    I'll put the word out down south. I can't take any more pets due to my towns restrictions, otherwise I would take on another girl.
    Lauren
  • SayaSaya
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    Here's pictures of the three
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.741983705823325.1073741848.200055706682797&type=3

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    Nicole, 7year old Bella(Boxer), and 7year old Saya(Shiba inu)
  • ValkyriiValkyrii
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    :(

  • zandramezandrame
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    OMG, this is really sad... Despite the efforts of the forum to help, the owner just dumps the dogs.

    And the Hokkaido's breeder, @Ewaka, was never informed. On top of the fact that the dog was needlessly spayed. :(

    Given that, has the breeder of the Kai (Classy/Marian) been contacted? She likely wasn't informed either.
  • NavyDogNavyDog
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    That is crazy.. How can contacting the breeder not have been an option? They would only want to help..
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    I'm waiting to hear back from one of the rescues involved, and have spoken to the breeder. I hope we can arrange something beneficial to dog and breeder and rescue. I also believe Marian has been contacted.
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  • Myabee09Myabee09
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    My heart is aching for these dogs. I wish there was something I could do.
    Lauren
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Wow...I am speechless on how you are all acting so negative about me needing to find homes for these dogs rather than dumping them to some local shelter. I am working with a no kill shelter right now to find homes for them and would appreciate the negative comments to stop, these are like MY children and I would NEVER put them in harms way or somewhere that would even consider putting them down. Thanks for assuming the worst and being so negative. None of you know my situation but just hear say. I have these dogs best interest in mind and they deserve a better life than I can give them right now.
    Post edited by jmaxwell at 2014-05-28 22:34:07
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Before you start bashing me you might want to get your facts straight.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Just going by what the rescue involved is sharing (which seems to have been pulled from FB now). Please clarify anything you feel is not correct, everybody just wants the best for the dogs.
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  • omgtainomgtain
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    I need to get a house of my own and have a giant NK sanctuary.
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  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    Huh. For the most part, all anyone has done has been to share the info. to try to get the word out so these dogs can find a home. I don't see that we are "all" acting so negative--I see people trying to help, trying to get the word out. I understand it must be a very difficult situation--maybe we could all just concentrate on trying to share information about the dogs so they can get into a new place? The odds are good that someone on the NK forum here might either be able to take one of the dogs or some of the dogs, or know someone who could, and certainly it would likely be NK savvy homes, so I would think this would be a good resource for sharing information. @jmaxwell, this is a good place to get more info. about the dogs so they can find a home....

    eta: And are they no longer at the rescue or what? The link doesn't work anymore.....though on the rescue page they are still listed. It would be useful to have photos of them and a link to the rescue to help get the word out. Are they still going to MSIR?
    Lisa, Toby (Shiba), Oskar and Zora (American Akita), and Leo (Kai Ken)
    Post edited by shibamistress at 2014-05-29 01:07:07
  • EwakaEwaka
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    Hi Jamie. It is really nice to hear anything from You. It is the pity, that it happened in these circumstances, this way, just now and here....

    Most of us have everydays problems. I suppose most of us have children, houses, credits, other dogs, problems in work, with children, old parents, who need our care... Some of us are in financial need, get divorced, get deadly sick. That`s the part of our life. I can understand everything, what has happened. Really. If I had a chance...

    I have never said You don`t love Your dogs or that You`ve treated the dogs bad. But nothing explains that You even didn`t inform me about Your decision regarding Kangai (in first or at all, cause I didn`t get the message from You even now), and addictionally try to suggest on forum that I`ve done smth that I never did, trying to slander me from some inexplicable reason.

    As I wrote it the previous http://www.nihonken.org/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/8792/sadly-need-a-new-home-for-japanese-dogs#Item_30, if You informed me I would have time to find new home for Kangai for sure, also I would try to organise the flight for her.
    She is six years old, but maybe she would accept our pack and stayed with us or find a place in a befriended home. It is really hard to say how she will behave in any new situation, because all of us KNOW, that hokkas are the dogs of "one men". They choosed us, are totally get used to one men, and many time they horribly suffer when something has changed in this area... They are independent, but when the owner leaves, they are hurted much more then the other dogs...


    That`s way, forgive me, I won`t feel sorry for You. I am not interesting about Your life at all, and I am not asking about it. It is not interesting for me.
    It is Your own life and Your choises. I am only interesting in the future of Kangai. I didn`t want her to go to unknown people, and without my acception. If You loves her, You should know it, it was also written in contract...
    I am still hopping You really want the best for her, not for You. Please let her be back home.

    I would possibly accept hery stay in US only if two or three responsible hokkaido or japanese breeders or owners in US will gurantee that they know the new owner, new home, the condition, and that she really won`t change the home until her death...
    Otherwise, please give her back.

    Ewa

    sorry for possible mistakes (it is not my origin language)
    Post edited by Ewaka at 2014-05-29 04:29:49
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    You want what's best for her but do you really think that flight would be best for her? It could cause terrible trauma for her. Also I will not be paying to send her anywhere. She is after all my dog and you are selfish to think otherwise to think I would just dump her some where. As far as marian, I emailed her and heard nothing from her and have heard she will put all the Kai-kens down when she dies. Keira's breeders don't even breed anymore and I'm pretty sure it was a puppy mill. I am looking into the best interest of my dog but I am also looking for myself and my two children and one person can only take care of so much.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Ewa how dare you call me a liar. I emailed you a few times through the years after I had her. I heard nothing from you. My phone number and email address have never changed. My mailing address has but that's it. Why in the world would I want to work with someone that treats me like that without finding anything out? I never told people lies about her papers and everything else. I never purchased her to make money off of her and breed her. She has had a good life with us and her brother and sister. She has not been the easiest dog but I love her very much and for you to bash me on here you should be ashamed of yourself. I understand your concern and anger but I did email you and heard nothing from you. Could have been very possible something happened and it went to your spam mail but believe me when I say I have contacted you about this before.
  • cdenneycdenney
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    @jmaxwell I'm sorry to hear about the situation that would force you to give up your dogs. I can only imagine that it feels like ripping a limb off your body and leaving it behind.

    I truly believe that this forum and it's members just want the best for your dogs even if the intent of the words have a different impact-- I truly believe they were not meant to cause offense.

    That being said your original thread in this is old could you tell us about your three in the interest of us spreading the word to find homes that will understand adult NK? What are their personalities, what do they like? What do the fear? Should they be adopted together or separately? The more we know we can start to tell others.
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  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    I still have kangai in my possession and Keira and Kenji are at foster homes at the moment. The lady I have been working with has did nothing but help after no one else seemed to want to and has understood these dogs needs and their temperament. Would anyone on here be interested in adopting them? I want wants best for them more than anything.
  • EwakaEwaka
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    I think that the one flight is nothing compared to the change of the home forever. I don`t want You to pay for the flight, just give us a time to organise it and prepare the money. Last e-mail from You came on november 2008. Until the february 2009 they came through, then all my letters were back. I knew there were some changes there in Your life, so I didn`t expect too much then. Later I asked about You also some people here, but they had also no contact to You.
  • cdenneycdenney
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    Can you tell us about them? Who they are as it may be. I know those with packs look for certain personalities to blend well.
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  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Ewa I would be willing to work with you. As you know this breed best and I want her in a safe place to someone that understands her.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    I personally don't know the foster homes they are in now but the lady I have been working with does. These are of course temporary homes until someone would adopt them. They do have a fenced in yard at both of them and other dogs. The switch has just been over the past few days.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Kengi (Kai ken) is very laid back and skiddish and likes to be the "follower" of the pack. The breed is skiddish but he has a very kind heart. He likes being around any other dog and I haven't seen him be aggressive to any other dog. He's good with my kids as well. It takes him time to warm up to people, but that's the nature of his breed but he is very protective and will of course bark when senses danger.

    Keira is very laid back and could be by herself or with other dogs. Her and kangai showed a little bit of good aggression once in awhile but nothing bad. She likes to hide a lot and be by herself and sleep but she runs around the yard and plays with the other dogs.

    They both have a lot of energy and life left but don't necessary have to go together. Like I said they are both in foster homes now and I have told her the importance of needing a certain type of foster house and what their personalities are like.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    I've also contacted J.A.D.E. Shiba Inu and Kai ken and she said she would perhaps be interested in the Kai and shiba but I haven't heard back from her. Midwest shiba Inu rescue and I hope we can all together to find good homes for these dogs! I don't want anything less.
  • SayaSaya
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    Thanks jmaxwell for the info.

    The owner did try re home via forum for bit. who knows maybe internet was spotty at time so was hard to post pics or whatever.

    It's good the owner at least took them to a no kill shelter and are in foster homes.
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    Nicole, 7year old Bella(Boxer), and 7year old Saya(Shiba inu)
    Post edited by Saya at 2014-06-27 17:11:54
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Ewa I did email you. Let me know if you received it
  • StaticNfuzzStaticNfuzz
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    Life events can throw a monkey wrench at anyone. Hoping the best for everyone.


    That being said….

    Don’t leave the barer of news solely to emails where messages are left up to the portal gods since it is all to easy to have communication stifled. News like this is not something someone wants to find out online, it just skews things and creates poor assumptions and rumors that will ruin someones day.

    It is times like these that having your breeder on speed dial and phone contact is soooo helpful. Yes even in another country give a call and talk. Five minutes could save a lot of grief to many.

    Snf




  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    I agree snf....I should have called her. This is a very difficult decision and I love them all dearly. Kangai especially as she is a very special breed and very unknown in the US. She has a wild dog personality and I have made sure her living conditions were on point to fit her needs. That being said, I cannot be selfish any longer and she needs someone who can be there for her, as all of them do. I am barly ever home and she doesn't deserve that. That is why I have reached out to you all. I truly hope we can all find good homes for them so I can be at peace with this unfortunate situation.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    I have since emailed ewa and we are working it out. I will hold her until we can come to a solution. Kenji and Keira are in foster homes and still available for adoption. Keira may be going to mid west shiba Inu rescue this weekend but the lady I am working with is delgently working to screen and find a good home for them. She is a no-kill operation and is looking out for the best interest in them as well.
  • PoetikDragonPoetikDragon
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    Glad to see that the lines of communication have been restored and everyone is talking to one another for the best interests of the dogs.
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  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    I live in Michigan but would be willing to somewhat travel with the dogs for suitable owners if anyone reading this is interested or knows of someone.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    All we can do is educate people as much as possible and hope they accept and have patience with them
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    @jmaxwell was one of the forum's earliest members. I'm sure she wants the best for her dogs, that has always been apparent. Life can be cruel at times, and we are sometimes forced to make choices we never expected to have to make. I know this from my own experiences. Also, sometimes, when life gets hectic and painful we do what we think is best and then wish we had maybe handled it differently. I think we've all done that.

    It's unfortunate that this thread had to become negative in order to get you back to the forum so that we can all help you with the situation, Jamie.

    This community has always come together and helped each other, so lets all help one of our elder members with her situation and pass on the judgment. Let's focus more on helping the dogs, and less on the circumstances that have lead to this thread. Cool?
  • Myabee09Myabee09
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    Cool.
    Just wanted to update... My leads down here have turned up nothing... I don't know of anyone in Wyoming that would be a good home for any of the pups. :(
    If there is anything further that I could do, don't hesitate to ask!
    Lauren
  • If you can't find kangai a home in the next month and a half I might be able to take her if she could get along with an intact female shikoku.
  • EwakaEwaka
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    Thank You Everyone for being watchful and interested in this matter. It is really important to me, cause I am 7500 km far away from You, and I cannot jump on my bike or board on the plane just straight off and just come to MI.
    But I can confirm ;) that both - Jamie, as well as a woman from Few Steps From Home Animal Rescue has contacted me yesterday, and we are in touch trying to come to common agreement and find together the best option for Kangai. I am not quite sure where exactly Kangai is placed - in the foster home i n Corruna or by Jamie, because the first messages were contrary, but I hope we all in three will work on the happy end of this situation. So, we will update when it happen...
    THANK YOU SO MUCH
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Kangai has always been in my possession and Keira and kenji and now back with me:)
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    That is one of the reasons I chose to take them back and work with Midwest shiba Inu rescue as she was lying to ewa saying she had her in her a foster and wants her nothing to do with flying back to Poland, however it's not her choice. I am very protective of kangai and want what's best for her. I don't think she would have any problems Lizzy with other females as she has a shiba sister with minor food aggression if any.
    Post edited by jmaxwell at 2014-05-30 06:58:55
  • Well I was asking about shikoku specifically because they can be very pushy, while I think kai and shiba are more reserved. For example the last time we had a roommate with dogs arashi loved to play CONSTANTLY, the other dogs would hide from her because they were done. I usually would have to put her up so the other dogs could have some peace.

    Could you tell me a little more about her personality, good stuff and flaws? Does she use a crate or have run of the house? If not could she be crated? She's good with cats right?
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    She loves to play and is very outgoing. She probably acts more like a husky or more like your girl. She is hyper at times but settles down soon after meeting someone new, she loves other dogs and has never shown aggression other than good aggression with the shiba, however I believe the shiba starts it. She is a beautiful dog, about 40lbs and is a fast runner. She loves to chase the birds and squirrels and sometimes the cats but is never harmful to the cats. She loves being active and loves to follow you around. Sounds a lot like your little girl.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    She does have a crate and is there while I work during the day but I have left her out of her crate if I have to go somewhere and the house is fine how I left it.
  • Yes, sounds a lot like arashi. Well I can't get kangai until after the closing on my house, fix it up and move in. Probably a month and a half. So if you figure out anything before then or if anyone else on here is interested I won't be offended.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Will you have a fenced in yard and what state are you located?
  • Yes there is a fenced yard and I live in north west arkansas.
  • So I also would not be very close, so if you didn't want her flying then we would have to drive a while to meet up somewhere in the middle. Something else to consider.
  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    After much thought, I think the best situation for kangai is to send her back to ewa in Poland. She understands this breed and I will be at peace knowing she is back home where she belongs. This is such a tough decision as I love kangai dearly but I cannot also live the rest of my life not knowing where and who she is with. I am crying as I write this. I knew I would be up for a challenge when I purchased these dogs, however as life has it, sometimes doesn't always go as planned and no matter what they will always be in my heart and their happiness is my first priority.

    Anyone out there going through this situation, looking to add a Japanese dog to their family, please do your research and allow these great people to help out with your search, whether it's to inquire about them or having to depart with them.

    I will also sleep better knowjng that kenji will be with Pam in Ohio and Keira is going to be with the MSIR and will help screen their adoptions.
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  • NavyDogNavyDog
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    Glad all the pups are going to good people that can help find their forever home. I couldn't imagine how heart wrenching this is for you but you are doing the right thing by putting their needs first
  • sunyatasunyata
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    I am glad that everything is working out for the dogs. Good luck and I hope that things settle down for you and your family soon.
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  • jmaxwelljmaxwell
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    Thank you for the kind words. I am so glad for this forum and for organizations out there that can help find these dogs good homes. I know ewa cannot wait to have kangai back in her arms and I know the other two will be I'm good hands. It really does help give me a piece of mind.

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