Brindle shiba? on craigslist-Gainesville, Fl
  • ZinjaZinja
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    http://gainesville.craigslist.org/pet/3064953453.html

    I found this post when I was poking around CL. I emailed the owner to get more info. She looks sorta like a kai ken with her makings.

    -Joe
    Post edited by Zinja at 2012-06-10 02:54:19
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Not a Shiba. Maybe it's Mochi!!! @brada1878
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  • MirkaMMirkaM
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    Keeping my fingers crossed that she is Mochi!
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  • WrylyBrindleWrylyBrindle
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    I think Mochi is much blacker.
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  • CaliaCalia
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    I don't think it's Mochi, Mochi is pretty dark and looked to have a sharper face than this pup. Plus from what I heard, Mochi was pretty small, practically shiba sized, and this dog is labeled as medium sized. But hey, you never know.
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    Post edited by Calia at 2012-06-10 08:46:51
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    Oh, I wish that was her. Esp. Since I am driving right by Gainsville today... But that's not her.

    She does look like a Kai Ken. Maybe I will try to contact them today. I have my camera with me too.
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    She emailed me. Shes 5 years old. I thought about mochi...mochi should be around 5 now. Mochi was much darker.

    I'm going to check her out. I'll take photos.
    -Joe
    Post edited by Zinja at 2012-06-10 10:40:55
  • ZinjaZinja
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    Here's another photo of her...

    http://gainesville.craigslist.org/pet/3068776326.html

    Shes part of a rescue organization where someone gave her up. The dog kept escaping their fence and the neighbors are threatening to shoot her
    -Joe
    Post edited by Zinja at 2012-06-10 11:42:42
  • sunyatasunyata
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    Oh my heart just skipped a beat. I really thought this could be Mochi. :(

    But either way, she does look to be a Kai. Hopefully we can help find her a home.
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  • LosechLosech
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    Oh, what a pretty girl! Even if she isn't a Kai, she's gorgeous.
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  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    Oh wow, she does look like a Kai. I hope someone can find her a home. The second link doesn't work now--is that a good sign?
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    http://db.tt/ch9iE9Pe
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    The rescue said cl has been flagging his posts so that may explain my previous link. Here are the photos he sent me. I'm meeting her tomorrow.

    Kais have black tongues, right?
    -Joe
    Post edited by Zinja at 2012-06-10 16:18:00
  • ZinjaZinja
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    Thanks for linking the thread. I remember reading it but couldn't search on a phone.
    -Joe
  • CarabooACarabooA
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    lol, I had to laugh when I saw that the photo's @Zinja posted read "hyena".... anyone else notice that?

    I'm sure she'll get a nice home very soon!!!
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    Yeah, they named her that.
    -Joe
  • Kuma123Kuma123
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    She is beautiful! I hope she finds a wonderful home.
    My goal is to be as good a person as my dogs think I am!
  • SayaSaya
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    I hate craigslist sometimes.. People flag things for dumbest reason..

    I agree Mochi is darker from what I remembered. I was hoping it was her, but still she does look kai ish..

    Hope find a good home and so sad about escaping fencing and neighbor threatening to shoot her. They sound like type neighbor my Aunt dealt with except they actually acted and trapped and killed her cats. :\

    Luckily AC got them to stop and she eventually was able to move she was kinda in middle of nowhere which was scary.

    I stay think about Mochi and pray someone somehow finds this forum so we know she is safe.. Kai ken are tough so who knows.
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  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    A lot of you are better identifiers of Kai than me, but in those last pics, she looks not so Kai-ish in the face shape? The last pic looked more like a Kai to me.

    But I'm not so good at identifying them, and I'm basing all my judgement off Brad's Kai Ken--the only ones I've met, and I might not be able to identify an American Kai Ken so well, so who knows.

    But a lovely dog nonetheless.

    and yeah, on the tongue, my Kai boy has only two small spots, and they are not immediately noticeable.
    Lisa, Toby (Shiba), Oskar and Zora (American Akita), and Leo (Kai Ken)
    Post edited by shibamistress at 2012-06-11 11:25:13
  • tjbart17tjbart17
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    That's a Kai to me. I'd bet the farm on it.

    Koda has lots of black spots on his tongue. Actually too many. It's his one fault. Mei only has two in the way back. Most people don't see them until she's hot or panting.
  • tjbart17tjbart17
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    Oh and :-( Mochi. I wish it was Mochi.

    Recently a Kai owner was talking about giving up their dog in Florida, but I can't remember how I heard it. I posted it on the fb page.
    Post edited by tjbart17 at 2012-06-11 13:18:51
  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    I knew someone would know! :)

    Leo has two in the back too, and I didn't even see them at first. Like Mei I didn't see them til he was panting.
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    I went to visit "Hyena" today. She looks like a Chow/Kai mix in person. I wasn't able to get a good photo so I took a video with my phone. She is a really sweet girl and my girlfriend enjoyed her. We're taking her home on Friday to see if she'll get along with cats and my Akita. If so, we'll take her! There is also someone in Orlando interested in adopting her.

    She was adopted 5 years ago from the same organization. The family found her jumping over their 4 foot fences and that's when the neighbors threatened to shoot. They gave the dog back to hill-top animal hospital 6 months ago. Since then, they have taken her to several adopt-a-thons and meet/greets but no one adopted her yet. The rescue said it's difficult adopting dogs now. They even have puppies that have stayed at the facility for over 3 months.

    She's a beast of a dog.. 70lbs! I thought she looked 50ish. I believe she can afford to lose some weight; she doesn't get much exercise time at her current situation. She is currently blowing her coat and I have a feeling she'll be beautiful when she's done.



    I also noticed that I'm A LOT more reserved with dogs. I had to put Sasuke down because he bit a lot of my family members, mainly from a hormone imbalance that we couldn't cure. I know the rescue says she is the sweetest girl and allows children to pet her; but because of Sasuke, I have a small fear of dogs :(
    -Joe
    Post edited by Zinja at 2012-06-11 23:06:20
  • SayaSaya
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    Hope things go well. I can't give any ID since I'm no kai ken expert beautiful dog either way.
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  • sukoshi_momsukoshi_mom
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    How about a mix between a brindle Akita and GSD? I think that a DNA test might be in order, just to satisfy everyone's curiosity.
  • Kuma123Kuma123
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    She is beautiful. I hope everything works out :)
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  • curlytailscurlytails
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    @Zinja, that's great that you're giving her a trial run! I thought she looked a bit smaller in the pictures too... but I'm a sucker for brindles, and she's got a full coat indeed, so I guess there's just THAT much more brindling to go around.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    She looks like a super overweight Kai, may be a touch hypothyroid as well.
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  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    I thought in the video she looked more Kai than I expected from the photos...something about the face and the expressions.

    I hope she works out with your family!
    Lisa, Toby (Shiba), Oskar and Zora (American Akita), and Leo (Kai Ken)
  • jellyfishjellyfish
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    i don't think she is part brindle akita.... there is no urajiro.
    But wow, 70lbs! That is impressive :)
    She certainly doesn't look it from the photos, but then, there isn't much reference. Beautiful dog regardless!! :)
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    That's great you are taking her home @Zinja! I hope she does well.

    She looks VERY stressed in that video, poor thing. Did they say if she was injured? Her back-end looks painful for her in that video.

    I agree with Lindsay ( @lindsayt ) and Lisa ( @shibamistress ), she looks like a super fat Kai in to me. There are some rather large Kai in North America, add obesity to that and I could see there being a 70# Kai Ken in America.

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  • tjbart17tjbart17
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    Poor girl. She's super stressed. At the same time, I'm proud of how she's taking everything.

    If Koda was chubby he could easily be 70 pds. He's a thin 54. I have to really watch his weight and exercise with his bad leg.

    Mei was 26-27 pds. When she got here and now she's a thin 38. 11 pds. sounds like a lot but dog weight can throw me off. They gain it so evenly.
  • sunyatasunyata
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    I agree with the chunky Kai recommendation.

    But I am really glad that you guys are going to give her a trial run! Hopefully things work out and she can help you with your reservedness with dogs. :)
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  • CarabooACarabooA
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    Yay! Let us know how she does!
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  • SangmortSangmort
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    Will keep my fingers crossed for you guys! Poor thing looks like a sweetheart tho. Hopefully she'll be a good fit for you guys :) ~
    - Osy ~
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  • SangmortSangmort
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    @Zinja - Where are you located now? We need to get together for a meetup & bring Kel @Yandharr lol ~
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  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    @Sangmort @Zinja @Yandharr - You should drive to Clearwater and meet me this week. ;o)
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    Actually, I always wanted to meet you... not in a creepy way, of course. I'll be in Tampa with the Kai in question. I know you'll be able to put a stop on this debate.

    I live in Gainesville but go to Tampa often because my parents are there.

    Do you have doggies with you, Brad?

    I asked if she has ever had any injuries and they said she has none. I know her nose is scratched because I called inquiring her temperament with cats. They placed a cat with her in the same room. The cat clawed at the dog when she was sniffing her :(

    She has never been an indoor dog, which may explain her weight gain. I can't believe she survived the Florida heat outdoors!
    -Joe
    Post edited by Zinja at 2012-06-12 16:52:28
  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    @Zinja - I leave Friday AM. I'm here on work, so no dogs. I can meet anytime after 4ish... I know that's short notice.
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    I wish I could. I guess I'll have to go to Taos ^.^
    -Joe
  • YandharrYandharr
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    @brada1878 - sure thing! I was actually just in clearwater. give me a call.
  • LosechLosech
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    Aww, poor girl! She does look pretty fat. One of my dogs was overweight at 70 pounds. She's slimmed down to a nice 50 now.
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  • SangmortSangmort
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    @brada1878 - Hey! Didn't realize you were down here. We'd love to meet up with you again! ~
    - Osy ~
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  • SangmortSangmort
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    @Zinja - We should! We're in Kissimmee / Orlando but go to Tampa sunday evenings for Wraith's bitwork training, & one day a week we go to Lakeland for rats for the snakes. ~
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  • Hinata23Hinata23
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    Dang it... All the cool stuff is happening before we leave to Florida!
  • SangmortSangmort
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    @Hinata23 - You need to hurry up & get down here! haha ~
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    East cost nihon ken meetup.
    -Joe
  • ceziegcezieg
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    @Sangmort Oh man my sisters live up in Orlando, that's only a 2 1/2 hour drive for Tsune and I :)
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    Post edited by cezieg at 2012-06-12 22:23:57
  • Hinata23Hinata23
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    @sangmort We'll be down there no later than July 17 :\ It's the best Jeff can do.
  • SangmortSangmort
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    @Hinata23 - That's not too far off!

    @cezieg - If you ever want to get together, let us know! Wraith & Dragoon are awesome with dogs, Fate...not so much, but he's up for meeting people ;) ~
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  • ceziegcezieg
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    @sangmort For sure! My sister just got a new GSD/GR/? mix puppy, he's about 5 months now I think? Him and Tsune are bff's and it'd be great to meet up! Tsune will generally be good at the dog park as long as he's not feeling overwhelmed or getting growled at. We had a few issues with a neighbor who lets his dogs (on unlocked extendable leashes) charge Tsune whenever they see him and now he's become somewhat fear reactive.
    He starts basic obedience/manners class next week, so once he has a few sessions under his belt and learns the correct way to introduce himself to other dogs and re-learns that all strange dogs aren't out to get him then we'll work a timeframe out :)
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  • SangmortSangmort
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    @cezieg - Cool! & yeah, Fate doesn't do well when meeting other dogs anymore. What's worse is now, he takes it out on Wraith & Goon for a week or two after. He's good as long as no one touches him tho. ~
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  • ZinjaZinja
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    So... (B)east coast meetup?!

    I like it.
    -Joe
  • SangmortSangmort
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    @brada1878 & @Yandharr - Had fun guys! Sorry the restaurant kind of sucked :\ ~
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  • BradA1878BradA1878
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    @Sangmort & @Yandharr - Yea, it was great seeing you guys! :o)
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    Post edited by BradA1878 at 2012-06-14 09:02:24
  • YandharrYandharr
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    @Sangmort @brada1878 , it was fun. sorry for not bringing Ciqala. If you find yourself down this way again, let me know and I'll definitely bring her.
  • ZinjaZinja
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    Going to pick her up today! I'm super stoked!

    First stop: Earth Pets for a fancy collar and leash!
    -Joe
  • WrylyBrindleWrylyBrindle
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    :) Wonderful! Best wishes!! :)
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  • ceziegcezieg
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    Ohhhhhh man! Pictures asap! :)
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  • LosechLosech
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    Neat! Can't wait to see her in her new attire!
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  • Kuma123Kuma123
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    Nice! Cannot wait to hear an update!! Good luck :)
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  • sunyatasunyata
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    So... How did it go?! :)
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  • shibamistressshibamistress
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    Yay! Let us know how it goes, and pics! Yay for Kai Ken!
    Lisa, Toby (Shiba), Oskar and Zora (American Akita), and Leo (Kai Ken)
    Post edited by shibamistress at 2012-06-17 13:19:14

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