Kishu and Shikoku Baying Boar

edited July 2010 in Hunting & Working
Took Baron with me yesterday to collect a boar we got in one of our traps. Wrote the whole story on the blog, will paste it here later. Took my friend's Shikoku B/T female along for her first look at a boar. Baron showed her how it's done. By the end of the session she was right in there catching the boar with him.



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  • edited November -1
    Enjoyed your blog Shigeru!

    But this quote made me laugh out loud "I'd left the boar 'refrigerated' in ice in our bathtub (thank god the wife's away)."
  • edited November -1
    I'm surprised at the size difference between Baron and the B&T Shikoku!

    Great blog post Shigs! :o)
  • edited November -1
    Man, Baron is not messing around! That was really cool to the that B/T slowly get the idea. Thanks for posting!
  • edited November -1
    Copied my blog entries from yesterday and today

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    BUSY DAY

    Got a call early yesterday morning that one of the traps set out by the hunter's association had a boar in it. The local hunting season is from November 15th to February 15th, but whenever farmers report crop damage the local government does a survey and when necessary calls in the hunter's association to do a cull. It's pretty much a volunteer community service. In the area I hunt there's quite a bit of crop damage all year round, and high numbers of game living in extremely close proximity to humans, so there's a cull going on almost all year round.

    We took a fair amount of boar out of this particular area last season and were a bit worried because the numbers didn't seem to be rebounding as fast as previous years. We took quite a few large sows, so that was probably the main factor. The farmers have been quite happy as the damage to their crops has been minimal so far. In most areas they will do a combination of trapping and hunting with dogs during culls, but the area I hunt mostly just traps.

    Had an extremely busy day planned, but in this heat trapped boars don't last very long. Last week I got a call that there was a large female trapped, but due to work I couldn't make it down that day. The next morning one of my friends went out to collect the boar and it had already died from heat stroke. So, dragged my ass out of bed and decided to take Baron along for some training. I would have taken the girls too, but they're both pretty out of it because of the insane heat wave we're experiencing.

    It was a small male boar, under 30kg. One of the local hunters has a new 3 year old BT Shikoku female that just arrived from a friend of his down south who's closing down his breeding operation. She's never seen boar before, so we were interested in seeing how she'd do. As soon as I took Baron out of the car, he bee lined it straight to the boar. He bayed it up very well, so we brought the BT female out next. She showed no interest, but also no fear, just trotted around without even noticing the boar. I figured if I brought Baron back out she might get the idea of what she was supposed to do. So here's the video.

    You can see that part way through she finally vocalizes a little and then after that really catches on. I took Baron back to the car as he was starting to realize he couldn't get at the boar, and I didn't want him getting bored. After this we hobbled/released the boar. The dogs caught it very quickly, and the Shikoku female was right in there with Baron. She got a good bite in, and held it till we got there. Between the two of them the boar wasn't going anywhere. We dispatched the boar, and took it down to a nearby stream to cool it down. My friend is 72 years old, and the heat was doing a number on him, so he headed home. I gutted the boar, packed it in ice, and sped home to get to work. Had to go out with a client for dinner in Tokyo, so got home around 11pm. I'd left the boar 'refrigerated' in ice in our bathtub (thank god the wife's away).

    Anyway, walked the dogs, then got to work setting up a makeshift work area. Usually I butcher at my friend's house using his set up, but because of yesterday's schedule there was no way around bringing it home. Finally finished packing all the meat and sterilizing the bath and kitchen at around 3am. I'm wiped out and taking it easy today.

    I've got some video of Baron and the Shikoku after they caught the boar, but it's short and I'm not that big a fan of gory hunting footage. I think it's more humane to get in there and dispatch an animal quickly instead of taking time to film it. Of course if you have someone else there to film, or the dogs are baying that's another story.

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    WHEN IT RAINS

    Well it cools down! Temperatures dropped from 34 to 24 centigrade overnight, and there was a slight drizzle. And then I got another call. 60kg male boar in a snare.

    I've been worried about Baron. He's coming along really well, but he's a bit too aggressive on boar, and always goes straight at them head on. Doing that in the mountains he's bound to get injured. I asked my friend who owns Baron's dam about it, and he gave me some good advice. I got his mail as I was driving down to the trap with the dogs, so it was perfect timing.

    The farmer/landowner came down with me and one of my hunting buddies to check out the boar. This boar was a lively fellow and I could hear him making his little warning grunts and clicks from a ways away. After we made sure he was securely caught, I brought in the dogs on leash, releasing them one by one.

    Basically today's training consisted of letting Baron learn the hard way that it's no fun to try to overpower boar. He's got to use his brains, and learn to judge his opponent. If he comes up against a boar he can't stop alone, if he bays it up, the other dogs and myself come to help. Everything went very well, and my worries about Baron being a knuckle headed bruiser were allayed. He got the point, and started attacking from the sides and rear, and actually looking to see where I was at and the other dogs were at. It was a good learning experience for him, and the cooler weather made things a lot easier for all concerned.

    Today I brought Haru along and decided to see how she'd do. She's been a bit iffy about boar, and I've had a really hard time reading her. The last time we ran into a boar in the mountains she was the one who found it though, and bayed it up till the other dogs came. She's a good finder, but has never barked on boar before. I wanted to see if it was a fluke, or if she vocalizes because she's more confident when the other dogs are with her.

    Well today for the first time she really worked the boar. I was very surprised. The differences in her style of hunting when compared with the Kishu are obvious though. They're looking for an opening to get in and catch, while Haru keeps more distance and bays, with no interest in catching. Once the boar was dispatched, she had no interest in it whatsoever, but the Kishu still wanted to get at it and latch on.

    Regardless, I've seen that when she's with the other dogs she does have a lot more confidence, and is quite happy to work with them. She's not going to catch at all, but it may not be a bad thing to have one of the dogs continually baying when they've stopped a boar. If all the dogs catch, a lot of times it gets really quiet and it's harder to pinpoint their location. I'm going to wait before jumping to any decisions based on what I've seen today, but all in all it was a positive effort by all the dogs.

    They're all pretty much gun broke, although Haru is still not a big fan. They're starting to catch on that once the gun goes off, the boar's going down, and that if they can stop the boar I'll be there to finish it off.

    I managed to drop my phone on the way to the boar, so no pics or video. At least I found it on the way back to the car. We're all muddy and tired, but home.
  • edited November -1
    Go Haru!

    It sounds like you've got yourself quite a little pack there. Does this mean there aren't any more pups in your future? :-/
  • edited November -1
    Sounds like you might have the perfect trio!

    While I am not into hunting at all, it is really interesting to read about you guys' experiences. Especially when it comes down to the different hunting styles of the different dogs. :)
  • edited July 2010
    @Kris Basically anytime I've brought game home, I set up shop in the shower. It's easy to clean up and disinfect. Good news is that it hardly ever happens as my friend has a shed set up for butchering. I did mail my wife just in case she came home while I was out. 'Honey there may or may not be a boar in the bathtub.'

    @Brad The BT female is on the smaller side, but still within the breed standard. Baron's a big boy though. Need to measure him sometime. Thanks for commenting about the post. I'm not that happy with my writing skills as I tend to get way too detailed and boring. I try to at least make it readable though.

    @Dave I really enjoyed watching the Shikoku figure it out too. She was a really fast learner. Fastest dog I've seen turn on yet. We'll probably start taking her along on hunts this coming season. There's already a litter planned, but since she's just getting out of heat it's a while off. I'm interested to see what kind of pups she throws. She's from a kennel that got some really good Honkawa blood way back when, hence the throwback BT gene. Her brother was a BT too. As far as Haru goes, she's still a big question mark, and not nearly where the Kishu are at. I'm pretty confident I could hunt with just Momo and bring back a boar. Baron might have a lower batting average but would probably figure it out pretty quick. Haru is so on again off again still that I try not to get too worked up when she does well. Quite happy to see that she was having fun with the Kishu though. I could see that she was much more comfortable knowing that they had the boar under control so she wasn't getting pressured by it. All she had to do was run around and bark, sniff the area a bit, come say hi to me, get a pat on the head, and bark/chase the boar some more. Most hunters would cull a dog like that from their pack. I'm planning on continuing to be patient and seeing if she clicks. If she's not enjoying it, I'm not going to push her. Either way, I will be adding more dogs. Have a pup planned for the end of the year, and a planned Haru breeding. Might keep a pup out of her litter. I'm shooting for 6 dogs. I find that controlling/walking/hunting 3 at a time works for me. Any more and I'm overwhelmed, so two sets of three as there are only so many hours in a day that I can be with my dogs.

    @Casey I really enjoy experiencing different situations with my dogs whether it's conformation, obedience, hunting or whatever else comes along. Just seeing the way each individual dog reacts and copes is mesmerizing. Everyday is a learning experience.
  • edited November -1
    Thats super cool shigeru. I wish there were that many hogs in my area. You definately have the perfect pack for sure. Oh and just to throw it out there, there is a home here for one of Haru or Momo's pups, just throwing it out.
  • edited July 2010
    I'm with Gen, there's a home here for one of Haru's pups too! :p [ Haru remains as my favourite Kai in Japan ever! ] ~
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