Kirin the Hokkaido (photo spam) *Updated 30th July 2017*
  • SixSix
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    29 hours and 1094 miles later, finally my new baby Kirin is home safe and sound here in England! She was such an amazing traveller, did the 12 hour journey with no sickness, no accidents and only a few short talking sessions to let us know she was still there.

    She has settled in quite well, she seems to be a pretty confident puppy and although a little intimidated by my four big dogs she isn't afraid to tell them which toys are HERS! She's been clean in the house so far and enjoys dragging all of the toys out of the toybox and onto the hammock bed and refuses to crash for a sleep unless she's in 'her spot' on the sofa.

    Sorry all of the photos in this initial post are phone pics so not great quality, but hopefully I'll be able to get the DSLR out in a day or two (the battery was flat :( ) and get some nicer ones.

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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
    Post edited by Six at 2017-07-30 17:18:55
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Congratulations! Kirin is adorable! :x I don't recall if you have ever said, but where did you get her from? Sorry, I'm always curious about other Hokkaido. ;)
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  • CrispyCrispy
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    Congrats! Is she a European import?
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  • So cute!
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  • SixSix
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    @whobitme she is from Kyuden Kitsune in France :-)
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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
    Post edited by Six at 2016-12-10 18:08:00
  • SayaSaya
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    Kirin is a cute name hope she continues to do well for you.
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  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Congrats! She is absolutely precious!
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  • Congrats! Is she first hokka in England?
    Ronja, from Finland

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  • SixSix
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    @Kitsusi there may be one or two others in the UK if they have emigrated over from Japan, but as far as I know she is the only one

    Finally managed to get the DSLR out for some proper photos.

    16 - 19 weeks. We started off on a long-line whilst she was still settling in, she's now off lead on the fields with the other four.

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    Small princess.
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    With 3/4 of the ASBO Four.
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    New leather collar
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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • Oh my goodness, keep the puppy spam coming! She is so precious! <3 Congrats on your new girl!<div class="UserSignature">Apricity Kennel Hokkaido Ken
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  • BarkingPupBarkingPup
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    O.O she's...... she's SO FLUFFY!!!!!!!

    I don't know anyone with Hokkaido, how big is she expected to be? OMG I just wanna snuggle all that foof <3
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
    Posts: 1920
    She's too cute! I feel a case of puppy lust coming on.
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
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  • TheWalrusTheWalrus
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    There is a white male Hokka in the UK that I took over there in 2015
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    Omg she is a adorable! I love her little face and squishy cheeks.
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  • SixSix
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    @TheWalrus that's great to know! Do you know where abouts he is? Are they a member here?

    @BarkingPup at 16 weeks she was around 8.2kg. So I am guessing maybe 15kg when she's grown...but I'm not entirely sure. I'm used to big dogs growing 1kg a week when they're young so this is all new!

    Wink and blep!
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    Sleepy (sleepy time does not last long, she's much more interested in playing with toys and being naughty than my Inuits were at this age).
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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • SixSix
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    A few quick phone snaps since we had a little sunshine today. Kirin has grown out of her puppy harness so we've upgraded to a Ruffwear one which is a little big for her in the chest but I'm sure she'll grow into it in no time.

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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    She's so cute! :x And she looks good in that harness.
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    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • lindsaytlindsayt
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    She is beautiful!
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  • EbilEbil
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    Such a fluffy puppy! Thanks for sharing!
  • jacobi8jacobi8
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    She looks lovely. I like all the pictures.
  • SixSix
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    Kirin is almost 6 months old now, and has been with us for just short of 9 weeks. She's definitely a different character to the Inuits and is starting to come out of her shell more and more every day. Her way of facing new things is to bark at them or chase them (fun when it's a car or a tractor coming down the tank tracks). She has a penchant for birds and will chase them for as long as they stay anywhere near the ground - once she is in this chase mode she completely switches off to everything else until she's decided it's no longer worth her time, upon which point she suddenly stops and looks around as if she's just realised how far away she's gotten. This is similar enough to my Inuits going after something that it's not the heart-in-throat moment it used to be. Generally she doesn't wander as far from me as they do and instead sits and watches them doing whatever it is they're doing.

    She's definitely a 'nose down' dog, whereas my others are 'nose up' dogs, always with their heads raised to the wind, she always has her nose on the floor following a scent that way. So when my others have spotted a deer and are watching it run she is completely oblivious to the fact that it's even there.

    Her play is pretty similar but she is picky about who she will play with, my female inuit has become her playmate so they rough and tumble together whereas if the two boys try to play she's more likely to make out like they are killing her but with the shepherd boy she will play zoomies and they will run in circles together.

    We are currently going through an excited nippy phase where she decides to grab hold of your trousers or your sleeve - we're still working on that one!

    All in all it actually seems easier working with Kirin than it was with any of the Inuits, but I know we still have a long way to go!

    Here are a few more photos of my growing baby, just crappy phone pics again since the weather has been generally awful here (just a note - the white box attached to her harness is a GPS tracker)!

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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    She's still so amazingly cute!

    Meitou has his nose to the ground a lot, too.
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    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • SixSix
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    More photo spam (with the DSLR this time, taking advantage of non-rainy weather) of Kirin and company, all in various states of living through the hairpocalypse! 4/5 dogs are moulting right now, I've given up trying to control the hair!

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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    That picture with her tongue sticking out. :x

    Kirin is so cute!
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    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • SixSix
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    More photo spam :x Kirin is now 7 months old and has started her first season at 7 months to the day! I'm a bit sad about this as our first event is in 2 weeks time and I don't think she's going to be over her season in time to come with Kiba and I :( sod's law, right?

    Had a little photoshoot in the garden today so I could have take pics without harness and collar as I think the harness makes her look younger. What do you guys think?

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    She's such a funny little puppy, definitely has a mind of her own. She has thankfully now worked out that birds fly and are not all that fun to chase, although she does still give into impulse when they go up right in front of her, crows more so than smaller birds. She came nose-to-nose with a New Forest Pony last weekend, so adorable but alas I had no camera with me!
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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    She's looking so good! :x And her cute red ears!

    She seems like a fun dog. :)

    Meitou likes to chase seagulls, ducks, and chickens but he usually ignores other birds. As he got older his prey drive lessened towards some things and intensified with others.
    1 Human + 1 Hokkaido
    RIP Amy (Border Collie)

    “Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket.
    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • SixSix
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    Kirin is now 8.5 months old and looking more fluffy again! I think I will have to invest in a cool coat for her this summer, despite the UK not having all that hot weather, her coat is so thick!

    Last weekend Kirin attended her first country show, along with my white NI, Kiba. She had lots of first experiences including her first train journey and first time on the London Underground. She did so well, I am so proud of her. She does love the sound of her own voice and has a habit of 'talking' to people whilst they're petting her but she got lots of attention and, I hope, was a good ambassador for the breed.

    Here's a couple of crappy phone pics.

    Saying hello to the pony at the petting zoo.
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    And the sheep too...
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    Baby Bellini came out to say hi. Kirin just wanted to know what was in the bottle.
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    At London Waterloo, waiting for our train home. Two super tired dogs!
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    And some photos from my camera in the garden today. Sadly the sunshine went in just before I went out!

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    Serious face!
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    Woo face!
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    Yoga face.
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    Up to something face...
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    Butter wouldn't melt face!
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    We haven't quite mastered 'wait'...instead we get commando crawl towards the treat!
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    Silly face!
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    What are you doing on the other side of the gate face.
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    So I have a question (and it's probably silly) but what separates a 'red' dog from a 'white' dog? Kirin has red tips on her ears, a red stripe down her back, and a faint red tip on her tail...does this make her red?
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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • WhoBitMeWhoBitMe
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    Kirin sounds like so much fun! And she is so cute!

    Meitou is a white dog with very faint red tips on his ears. He is still a white dog. It seems to be a fairly common occurrence in white Hokkaido (and probably some other white dogs, too). I'm sure people who know more than I do about color genetics can explain it better. :>
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    But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.”
    --Patrick Rothfuss, A Wise Man's Fear

    "Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination."
    --Brandon Sanderson, the First Ideal from The Stormlight Archive.
  • KriszKrisz
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    Only original "Chitose" bloodline gives pure white Hokkaidos with black nose, and some of them have red ears :-)

    My import whites and their offspring are pure white with black nose.

    Other whites from different bloodlines are not pure whites, they are light reds or biscuit.

    One of my whites: http://i1149.photobucket.com/albums/o586/krisztinailles/seta_nice_new_zpsemxo67f1.jpg

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    Post edited by Krisz at 2017-05-05 06:59:30
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Kirin is a white. White in the Japanese dogs is "ee" or "recessive red" - the flesh nose on a white Japanese dog is normal. Black noses are desired, but are more difficult to retain. Red pigment in the ears or down the back is normal as recessive red does not actually restrict red pigment, just the black hair growth.

    A red dog is genetically wild type at the E locus (Ee or EE) and inherited sable in some form at the A locus.

    Sometimes, in Kishu, somewhat yellow or ruddy "white" dogs are called "yogore shiro."
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  • KriszKrisz
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    Some Kishu breeders prefer same pure whites and some Hokkaido breeders prefer pure whites with black noses, others have not pure whites with pink noses... it is not a problem just people need to know it :-)
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    Post edited by Krisz at 2017-05-05 07:21:04
  • SixSix
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    Thank you all for your helpful explanations :) that makes sense and is also fascinating. I did do some reading a couple of years ago on colour genetics but I have to say I got a little confused!

    Completely unrelated but it makes me wonder if the recessive red is also in the Northern Inuits as my boy is 'white' but also has red tinging to his ears and some of the white NIs have the same reddish tinge on the back hairs as Kirin does.

    Edited to add: She did have a black nose originally (or very dark brown) you can see how it changes in the photos as she's grown.
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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
    Post edited by Six at 2017-05-05 12:25:07
  • CrispyCrispy
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    Yep! That is usually what happens in recessive red dogs. They all develop black pigment (or, whatever their eumelanin is expressed as) but it fades out. Fionna's faded out around 9 weeks. Really early. :(

    It is likely the same way white is inherited in your NI, too! :)
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  • SixSix
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    Kirin is now 11 months old, and despite having a moult back in February/March she's just blown her coat again in its entirety! She looks so naked and scruffy! She also had what was either the beginning of a hot spot or a graze from playing with the others which is just clearing up now.

    She's doing really well with her travelling and has done quite a few different shows now where she gets plenty of attention and does meet-and-greets with the public. Sadly my older white NI, Kiba, who was her travelling companion for her first couple of journeys is currently going through chemotherapy and is not able to attend events for now so it's just been me and Kirin on the road. She's quite a princess and doesn't like sitting on the floor on the train, she hops right up on the seat which occasionally gets us dirty looks from other passengers lol, but mostly people just want to pet her and say hello.

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    Here are some photos from today, out in the secure field we rent for a couple hours every month.

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    Owned by 3 Northern Inuits, 1 GSDx and 1 Hokkaido.
  • SayaSaya
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    Great pictures. they all look like they're having such fun time. :)
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